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What can we do to get value from our private health insurance?

What can we do to get value from our private health insurance?

There’s been some sobering figures out this week about how 40% of those of us aged more than 45 suffer from at least two of the eight most common chronic diseases.

The two most frequent maladies, arthritis and cardiovascular disease, usually occur alongside each other and back pain according to the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare (AIHW).

But there’s still one chronic pain which afflicts far too many patients who use the health system and for which there appears to be no ready cure apart from vigilance.

Its symptoms are shock and surprise, followed by disbelief and doubt and then a rapid onset of anger and frustration with a system that’s meant to make us better.

It’s the dreaded gap payment or those bills from private hospitals, or doctors and other health professionals which aren’t covered by Medicare or private health insurance.

Simply put it’s the amount you have to cough up for medical or hospital charges which exceed the sums Medicare or private health insurance are prepared to pay.

The average out-of-pocket expenses (a ridiculous expression as who has this much cash in their trousers?) for a private hospital visit is $285 and for extras cover, ie the dentist, it’s $46, according to a recent study

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A CHOICE survey of its members found almost half paid extra for a private hospital visit usually less than a $1000 but for some up to $5000.

What’s worse a quarter of the 740 respondents said they hadn’t been warned of the extra costs beforehand and where information was given it certainly wasn’t clear.

A university lecturer recently wrote about the FOG, or the fear of the gap. He was very happy with his treatment but when he couldn’t get a straight answer as to what the extra costs would be opted for a no cost public hospital after a minor accident. 

And he’s not alone. It’s estimated the well-realised fear of the gap sees many use the public system, which the whole private health insurance scheme to meant to relieve, instead of facing unknown and gaps.

So what can we do to get value from our private health insurance, where we choose or can afford to have it, bearing in mind we’ve probably also paid for Medicare through various levies ie taxes?

The onus is firmly on the consumer, that’s you and me , to check with the doctor and others involved in the procedure, such as anaesthetists, as to what their charges are. They should provide an estimate if not use someone who does.

You also need to check with your health fund to see what’s covered in the policy and if there are any excesses or exclusions.

Again too many of us, according to the research, are NOT adequately appraised of what policy we are paying for and end up facing additional costs and even no cover at all for certain conditions.

Most funds have medical gap arrangements with doctors and hospitals which can reduce or eliminate the out-of-pocket expenses. If you use another provider who isn’t bound by such agreements it can prove costly.

In short it’s up to us to ask the right questions of all the parties concerned from the fund to the doctor and then hospital and even then it might not be either understandable or reliable.

Doctors can charge as they see fit. Hospitals have all kinds of fees and insurance policies as ever have their own tricks and traps for the unwary.

You might ask why bother paying in the first place?

One reason is the largest users of private health insurance hospital benefits are the cohort aged between 60-79 years old.

Given the prevalence of those chronic diseases they probably want some choice and control of their treatment which they believe the private system offers especially in terms of avoiding long waiting periods in the public hospital system.

Even before the gap payments such insurance comes at a real cost so beware and never be scared to ask those questions.

Check out the federal government website privatehealth.gov.au which reports on the percentage of hospital procedures each health fund covers with no gap.

Tell us your experience with out-of-pocket expenses by provided your comments below.

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Claudia
Claudia from VIC commented:

Rather than pay greedy health insurers shouldn't we put that money into medicare and keep our existing health program. We all know insurance companies are greedy corporates who have no concern for you.We are guilty of not allowing government to increase the medicare levy and forcing them into putting the money into healthcare.It would have remained a cheaper and fairer way to deal with the healthcare crisis.You are dilussional to think you will get value for money from private health insurance. 

Ian
Ian from NSW commented:

I was recently diagnosed with Prostate cancer and elected to have surgery. We have top hospital cover with HCF who we have been with for nearly 40 years. The procedure was conducted at a private hospital, and while HCF covered all hospital fees, my out of pocket expenses were $8,900 for the surgeon and $1450 for the anaesthetist. I was informed up-front regarding the gap for the specialist, but did not meet the anaesthetist until the day of my surgery, so was unaware what they would charge. All up, including specialist visits, biopsy, MRI scan and pathology I am just over $11,000 out of pocket. To make matters worse I cannot even claim some of this back as a tax deduction any more. The Government need to wake up, they are out of touch. I was lucky in that we could afford this expense, but what about your average pensioner, where would they find this sort of money? Most would go on the public health waiting list and hope that the cancer did not spread in the meantime! 

Gerard
Gerard from NSW commented:

I makes me wonder why top cover is not 'top cover'. Health insurance like all insurances should have a set excess and no more to pay. Unfortunately, I feel that all these blogs / comments will do little to change the system. Shopping around is not the answer and is a continuous battle, not only for health insurance, but for all insurances not to mention green slips, gas, electricity, phone, internet providers - the list goes on. I work full time and do not have time to come home and sift through and contact or surf the net continuously. Although I am quite capable of doing these functions, but I do feel for the elderly unable to communicate with WWW. I know I am on a rant, but I feel that no-one (politicians in particular) are not really listening. People deserve to have some quality to their lives, and feel that they are not throwing away their very hard earned dollars for little or no return. 

Someone
Someone from NSW commented:

I am already insured with H C F .Unfortunately you have to ask the doctor do they charge for a gap then the Hospital then the aneththist separetaley which I think is quite ridiculous .Why then do I pay top H C F health cover .The answer is you have to ask the Surgeon and all others DO THE CHARGE A GAP 

margaret
margaret from NSW commented:

Well these comments confirm that which I have been writing about these charges each time this topic is raised. It is a 'free for all medics' out there, and our government, incapable of taking a stand against any but the poorest and the weakest of it's citizens, will not demand an explanation of charges that are obviously excessive. These gutless examples of incompetence are keen to back wages as low as $17-$18 per hour and secretly think this is more many humans are worth, whilst simply ignoring the unrestricted charges, in the main, housing and medical, that this wage must cover. Good luck with having anything done 

Janelle
Janelle from NSW commented:

We have had the top private health cover for over 38 years and we still have to pay Family cover because our health fund doesn't have couples only cover. We really haven't made any claims except for glasses and annual dental check ups. I recently had to have an operation and my out of pocket expenses were $3,500 for the Specialist and $650 for the Anesthetist. I don't understand why we are penalised for having Private cover. We pay thousands of dollars for health cover and when we need it, we are then hit with massive out of pocket expenses/gaps. This really is a massive deterrent but they know if we want private care ie choice of doctor/specialist and hospital then we have no choice but to pay these ridiculous premiums. 

Warren
Warren from NSW commented:

It's obvious from the comments so far, no one understands the concept of insurance. 

Prabir
Prabir from NSW commented:

Paying every year around $5000 dollars of health insurance and then paying gap for everything like optical, dentals thousands of dollars doesn't make any sense of ebing in private health funds. Last year we maid more than 15000 for the braces of our two child. $500 extra for my wife and my optical. I think it's better if government gets rid of health insurance and take percentage of income from all and provide all the services. 

Michael
Michael from NSW commented:

Last year I underwent a very minor 'day only' procedure at a private hospital. The ' Gap' I had to pay totalled just over $1,000. Part of this payment was a $250 excess to my private health fund. The doctor charging above the recommended fee made up most of the rest. The episode caused me to look at my private health insurance. My investigation revealed I could transfer to a reputable fund, with ALL my current benefits and no waiting periods. The benefits were equal to or better than my old fund with one or two exceptions where I would receive literally a dollar or two less. It did not cover obstetrics (not required). There was no excess for day surgery. The saving in premiums was $996. When the funds contributions went up last year mine didn't as my cover was a 'new product' and the increase had been allowed for. My annual saving is now well over a $1,100 a year. I have recommended this fund to friends and family, a number of who have changed funds as well. The moral of this story is obviously 'shop around', there are better deals to be had for many people. 

Annette
Annette from NSW replied to Michael:

Who were you with and who did you change to? 

Michael
Michael from NSW replied to Annette:

AHM to Westfund 

Sandra
Sandra from QLD commented:

I had cataract Surgery recently. We have top hospital cover. Because I chose the best specialist and he is in Sydney, and I live in Brisbane, I had both eyes done at the same time, The Hospital cost me nothing. However I got practically nothing back on the Surgeon & Anaesthetist fees, and because I had 2 operations at the same time, I got nothing back for the second eye operation, from either Medicare or Medibank Private! How ridiculous is that! 

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