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What can we do to get value from our private health insurance?

What can we do to get value from our private health insurance?

There’s been some sobering figures out this week about how 40% of those of us aged more than 45 suffer from at least two of the eight most common chronic diseases.

The two most frequent maladies, arthritis and cardiovascular disease, usually occur alongside each other and back pain according to the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare (AIHW).

But there’s still one chronic pain which afflicts far too many patients who use the health system and for which there appears to be no ready cure apart from vigilance.

Its symptoms are shock and surprise, followed by disbelief and doubt and then a rapid onset of anger and frustration with a system that’s meant to make us better.

It’s the dreaded gap payment or those bills from private hospitals, or doctors and other health professionals which aren’t covered by Medicare or private health insurance.

Simply put it’s the amount you have to cough up for medical or hospital charges which exceed the sums Medicare or private health insurance are prepared to pay.

The average out-of-pocket expenses (a ridiculous expression as who has this much cash in their trousers?) for a private hospital visit is $285 and for extras cover, ie the dentist, it’s $46, according to a recent study

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A CHOICE survey of its members found almost half paid extra for a private hospital visit usually less than a $1000 but for some up to $5000.

What’s worse a quarter of the 740 respondents said they hadn’t been warned of the extra costs beforehand and where information was given it certainly wasn’t clear.

A university lecturer recently wrote about the FOG, or the fear of the gap. He was very happy with his treatment but when he couldn’t get a straight answer as to what the extra costs would be opted for a no cost public hospital after a minor accident. 

And he’s not alone. It’s estimated the well-realised fear of the gap sees many use the public system, which the whole private health insurance scheme to meant to relieve, instead of facing unknown and gaps.

So what can we do to get value from our private health insurance, where we choose or can afford to have it, bearing in mind we’ve probably also paid for Medicare through various levies ie taxes?

The onus is firmly on the consumer, that’s you and me , to check with the doctor and others involved in the procedure, such as anaesthetists, as to what their charges are. They should provide an estimate if not use someone who does.

You also need to check with your health fund to see what’s covered in the policy and if there are any excesses or exclusions.

Again too many of us, according to the research, are NOT adequately appraised of what policy we are paying for and end up facing additional costs and even no cover at all for certain conditions.

Most funds have medical gap arrangements with doctors and hospitals which can reduce or eliminate the out-of-pocket expenses. If you use another provider who isn’t bound by such agreements it can prove costly.

In short it’s up to us to ask the right questions of all the parties concerned from the fund to the doctor and then hospital and even then it might not be either understandable or reliable.

Doctors can charge as they see fit. Hospitals have all kinds of fees and insurance policies as ever have their own tricks and traps for the unwary.

You might ask why bother paying in the first place?

One reason is the largest users of private health insurance hospital benefits are the cohort aged between 60-79 years old.

Given the prevalence of those chronic diseases they probably want some choice and control of their treatment which they believe the private system offers especially in terms of avoiding long waiting periods in the public hospital system.

Even before the gap payments such insurance comes at a real cost so beware and never be scared to ask those questions.

Check out the federal government website privatehealth.gov.au which reports on the percentage of hospital procedures each health fund covers with no gap.

Tell us your experience with out-of-pocket expenses by provided your comments below.

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Janice
Janice from NSW commented:

My out of pocket expenses for the past few years has been greater than $100K !!! Yes that's right I have a chronic lung condition for which I need physio therapy 3 times per week and a compromised immune system for which I have a monthly infusion of gamma globulin to support my immune system ($3,300 per month) and keep me alive and relatively well. Currently NO health fund supports this infusion AT ALL!! Even though it is prescribed by an imminent Professor of Immunology. I have sent numerous presentations on the cost effectiveness of this recognised treatment to Health Funds to no avail. Our Supper is quickly being depleated by my health needs for which there is inadequate cover. 

terry
terry from NSW commented:

There is no club health insurance special offer with HCF as they are $44 p m more than NIB For the same cover. Fifty Up Club you need to check your facts before posting on the site Terry 

Barbara
Barbara from NSW commented:

Well if we weren't depressed enough about the state of the PHS, and the huge gaps we have to pay, then after reading the previous pages of comments we certainly are now.... we were going to change health funds, but now are seriously contemplating cancelling altogether...We pay over $5000 P/A to HCF and don't even have top cover !!!! so reading the amount of Gap payments being asked from those with Top Cover...as age pensioners in our late 70s we will never be able to afford it....we are over it, wake up Australia, do something about it NOW while you can, or our health system is going to be so far down the tubes it will never find its way back.... 

Barbara
Barbara from NSW commented:

We are with HCF and pay $5,000 per year, and yet even a small filling I had to pay an $80 gap fee....why bother 

Susan
Susan from NSW commented:

An Aged Pensioner I've paid top cover with no excess Private Health Hospital+Extras over more than 10yrs. Last time I used the pensioner free list waiting 3+ years for new dentures after a Pensioner Dentist pulled my 3 front bottom teeth. I decided to use my Private Health Fund to get a set quicker. An appointment with the Dentist at Health Funds advice for a quote ($75 Fund refund $47). I need upper and lower dentures the Fund covered 1/2 which left me $1350 "Out Of Pocket". I have gone on the free list now I. I have a Brachial cyst on my throat needing removal by an ENT (consultations $300 so far Medicare $109 refund Private Health Fund $0-O.O.P. expense=$191) Waiting for op. item numbers to work my O.O.P. costs. If too high I will have to go on the waiting list perhaps if it becomes infected in that time I will get emergency treatment. Over past6 months pain in my right hip makes it difficult to move about GP referred me to Orthopedic Surgeon 2 visits Fee=$235, Medicare Refund=$109, Health Fund $0-O.O.P= $126. requested MRI, actually free-prescribed guided Cortisone injection in Hip ($50 pensioner's fee). Referred me to Orthopedic Spine Surgeon as the MRI showed serious spinal nerve problems. Appt. next month fee=$150 Medicare refund=$72.75 Health Fund $0,-O.O.P. =$77+. I understand Doctors fees they have ongoing study and responsibilities. I think the System is flawed. I'm in a members owned Fund it works out a bit cheaper than HCF etc. I felt embarrassed having to bargain with a Specialist/Doctor it was like bartering at a fair for the cheapest price, NOT a necessary operation. Before free Medicare all workers paid Private Health Cover. The Doctors used a voluntary system at hospitals to treat those who didn't have Private Cover or you paid. I think if Medicare covers a % Health Funds should pay remainder or the lot. The taxpayer pays twice Fund fees,-tax rebate & Medicare also gap charges. Surely a better system would be cheaper 4 the Govt.& improve services 

Dorothy
Dorothy from QLD commented:

my husband has just returned home from having major heart surgery and to my horror the bills have started to arrive. Surgeon and specialists accepted what Medibank Private and Medicare paid and so did the hospital , not the labs or the x ray departments . I was informed that Medibank Private no longer covered the GAP for these and other services . We pay $82 a week from our pension as we are trying to look after our selves and not be a burden , we are both 75 and 76 and have heart problems, have been in benefits with Medibank since it began, what in the hell is going on and why is this allowed . I will be shopping around for a better deal, we are disgusted . 

Denis
Denis from QLD commented:

My wife recently was admitted as an emergency patient to a private hospital, we have top hospital cover with Bupa, she had an operation to remove a disc in her neck and a spacer put in, we didn't have a choice of surgeons or anesthetists, and ended up with gap payments of more than $6000. We had to pay $2000 upfront before they would operate in spite of our Bupa cover. We are both pensioners. Makes you wonder if we should have gone public. 

Janet
Janet from NSW commented:

I feel the government needs to be kicked up the proverbial and a damn good shake up. They have let this run on for goodness knows how long and now it's coming back to bite us, the unwary people who have decided that they want to do the right thing by taking out private health insurance for their families. My husband needs a hip and knee replacement and it's not getting any better but he feels that if he goes in under health insurance, we will never be able to afford the out of pocket expenses! We are in our early 60's and still working part time as we don't have an option. We can't afford to retire. The government needs to take a good llllllooooonnnnnggggg look at the system and bloody well fix it up. I work for the medical profession in a hospital and know what the doctors and other medical professionals provide but they are taking us for a ride every time we see them in their private rooms - a consultation for my rheumatologist (I have Lupus) cost me $398 initially and I get back $170 from Medicare, big whoop. If we are paying private medical insurance we should NOT be charged for these services, I thought that's what we paid Medicare for! Obviously not!!! These private health insurance companies are being paid by the drug companies, and greed has just become out of control. 

terry
terry from NSW commented:

Adding on to my previous comment I had my prostrate removed at the prince of wales private hospital which I shared with a chap who had to have 24 hours care that did keep me awake. I had to pay $500 hospital fee & my out of pocket expenses were $5500. In May this year I had an arthroscopy on my left knee & even though I was in Nowra private hospital for only 6 hours I still had to pay The first $500 to the hospital plus $1759.60 the specialist & $588.00 for the anaesthetist. The government needs to shake up the system & reel in the specialist fees as they all are living the live of luxury & clearly not paying enough tax. Any person earning up to 10 million a year should be paying 75% tax same as the USA. Not trying to raise the GST to 15%. My wife & I are pensioners retired & earning only a part pension. 

terry
terry from NSW commented:

Sorry but I was with HCF & the over fifty club recommened switching to NIB which I did as it was a better deal but 3 months later the cost rose from $199 per month to $215 per month.We now have taken extra cover at a cost of $254.52. I checked HCF & the same cover would have cost me an extra $44 per month. So what is going on Tery 

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